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late 1st.w Heuglin's Gull??in SW Sicily
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:10 pm
by Lucius
need your opinion
heuglin's was the only i could figure out
cause of moult...
found on7th March
thanks a lot
Lucius
Re: late 1st.w Heuglin's Gull??in SW Sicily
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:20 pm
by Theo Muusse
Given the strong wear on this bird, I wonder why its not a more southern type of cachinnans/ michahellis....
Theo
Re: late 1st.w Heuglin's Gull??in SW Sicily
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:26 pm
by Cristian Mihai
Yep, I'm not able to rule out a Yellow-legged Gull...
Re: late 1st.w Heuglin's Gull??in SW Sicily
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:29 pm
by Lucius
never seen before
a YLG 1st.w with completely juv worn unmoulted wing in march
and so plain unmarked grey(AD:TYPE) second generation scapulars
anyway a really strange bird !!!
thanks
Lucius
Re: late 1st.w Heuglin's Gull??in SW Sicily
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:45 pm
by lou bertalan
Lucius wrote:never seen before
a YLG 1st.w with completely juv worn unmoulted wing in march
and so plain unmarked grey(AD:TYPE) second generation scapulars
anyway a really strange bird !!!
thanks
Lucius
both is possible, lucius. this is a bird with adult like scaps:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=131&start=10#p462
and 1st winter YLG without replaced coverts and tertials are not at all rare, like this:
- 2 2010.02.20 herastrau cm P2209076mm.jpg (121.76KiB)Viewed 10683 times
head and body shape in your bird definitely says michahellis (and that nice smudge around eye..). such scaps are a confusing matter in separating them from caspians.
all the best,
lou