Kumlien??

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totoguti
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Kumlien??

Post by totoguti » Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:39 pm

Hi all:
This gull was sighted yesterday 30.1.2013 in NW Spain.
I think this is a kum, but I have no experience....
Any opinion about it ?
Thanks in advance
Antonio

More pics at:
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com.es ... mlien.html
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Re: Kumlien??

Post by marsmuusse » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:54 pm

Hi Antonio,
From this picture it seems the outer-webs of the outer primaries remain relatively pale, without a suggestion to get dark towards the primary coverts. Of course, an open-wing would help here, have a look at:
http://gull-research.org/glaucoides/gla ... nk001.html
and:
http://gull-research.org/glaucoides/gla ... ar019.html

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Re: Kumlien??

Post by totoguti » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:24 am

Hoi Mars:
Thanks a lot; you have some open-wing pics at my blog (Link over the pic).
Groet.
Antonio

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Re: Kumlien??

Post by oskarn » Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:41 am

My thoughts on this bird (based on the photos on Antonio's blog):

1) The bird is bulky with a "Herring Gull-like" head shape and a long dark bill.
2) It's got quite plain tertials as well as a semi-plain tailband.
3) at least p7-p9 show the darker outer webs with a J-shape at the tip.

All this should point towards kumlieni why I would say; shouldn't this be enough to call it a kumlieni?

Best regards,
Oskar

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